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Re: 4.7L Engine Swap
Posted By: mcfarlane Posted On: July 13, 2002 at 12:46 am EDT
> > on to the point: if linear s
> pa
> > ce is a problem, i can weld
> a
> > rad cradle up on the OTHER s
> id
> > e of the front x-members. th
> e
> > two uni-rails next to the st
> ru
> > t towers provide beautiful m
> ot
> > or mounting oppertunities.
>
> That would be awsome. Front sp
> acing wont be that much of a p
> roblem. A V8 is just a 4cyl sp
> lit down the middle. Not that
> much longer, just wider. The s
> traigt six would be a bastard.
> May have to use a thin electr
> ic fan or somthing.
An M series motor *does* fit in the front of a celica. custom motor mounts are needed, to lower the engine to the proper height and location. the rad has to be moved to infront of the crossmember, no biggie.
remember, an elec fan can always be put on the *front* of a rad.
> > ecu swapping would be
> > a pain in the hootie, but yo
> ul
> > d have to do it anyways if y
> ou
> > wanted v6 (or str
> aight six fo
> > r that matter) power under y
> ou
> > r hood, unless you LIKE carb
> eu
> > rators on new engines.
> The ECU wont be that hard eith
> er so long has you have a comp
> lete engine harness. You can m
> ount the box anywhere (without
> heat). I don't even think the
> 4.7l even has a carby version
> ! And anyway I am a huge fan o
> f injection.
if you are going to bother stealing a brand new rare motor, steal a programmable ecu. the ecu might be monitoring the cars functions too.. dual o2s etc, etc, etc that may not come standard wtih your celica.
> > two problems i consider to b
> e
> > problems: steering rack goes
> u
> > nder the 22r motor under the
> o
> > il pan, where it is contoure
> d
> > to let it through. v8 motor
> ma
> > y not be so contoured. solut
> io
> > n: new oil pan or crazy stee
> ri
> > ng (cable system?)
>
> That is a very big problem. Yo
> u could fab up an oil pan to g
> et more room but I am not sure
> that will solve the problem.
> The engine is just bigger. You
> could use your original cradl
> e idea to mount the engine abo
> ve the front crossmember but t
> hen I am not sure if the trany
> would fit down the drive tunn
> el. Besides you want the engin
> e to be as low in the car as p
> ossible for balance.
>
> I wouldn't recomend the 'crazy
> cable system'. If a cable eve
> r snapped you would be on the
> road to nowhere fast without a
> driver!
you are going all out custom. universal joints, custom mounts, and an immediate drop outta the firewall, then down to the rack.. other things to think about might be a manual rack..
> The only thing I can think of
> is to replace the front x-memb
> er with something that will al
> low you to mount the engine an
> d rack lower. That would not b
> e an easy fab job though. The
> control arms hook to the x-mem
> ber. So it has to be very, ver
> y stong, especialy at the bush
> ing mounts.
the *big* thing is the x member and the oil pan sump. a custom pan might be needed like said.. or you may have to move the xmember forward/back to accomodate a different sump location
> > power brake booster is somew
> ha
> > t large, and may interfere w
> it
> > h a large intake plenum or p
> os
> > sibly a rocker cover.. that
> wo
> > uld be a BUGGER to move, but
> c
> > ould be done... i wouldnt wa
> nt
> > to though.
>
> I don't think it will get in t
> he way of the intake. That is
> all on top of the engine. A ro
> cker cover maybe. You'd have t
> o take some measurments. All I
> can say is relocating the boo
> ster would be a huge PITA to m
> ove.
toyota made 'deeper' and 'smaller' boosters. swap around. err shop around
> > as for weight an handling: v
> er
> > y valid point, but i remembe
> r
> > reading somewhere that the 4
> .7
> > is an aluminum bl
> ock with col
> > d iron sleeves and aluminum
> he
> > ads and intake.
> > ...
> > i am an okay welder, so i ca
> n
> > move the whole assembly back
> wa
> > rds until it balances, or pu
> t
> > a stereo in the back that eq
> ua
> > ls the imbalance of weight *
> gr
> > in*
>
> You wont be able to move the e
> ngine back that far. Move it m
> ore that 4 or so inches back y
> ou you'll have a rocker cover/
> exhaust header in your lap. I
> like the idea of balancing it
> with a sound system, LOL! The
> frightning part is that it wou
> ld actualy work. Throw 3 or 4,
> 12"s in the back and the weig
> ht will be 50/50. If heavy.
just move everything off the front of the car. battery, ps pump, bumper, etc, etc, etc
> > hmm.. im kinda new here and
> iv
> > e already written tons... is
> t
> > here any policy as to how ma
> ny
> > replies a message
> gets, or wh
> > at kind of conduct you expec
> t
> > of me, or am i pissing anyon
> e
> > off?
> > -Brya
> n
>
> Nope the more the merrier. Thi
> s is (basicaly) an unmoderated
> list. You can post what you w
> ant, as much as you want, any
> time you want. The only thing
> I wouldn't tollerate is spam.
> (For anyone reading selling ce
> lica parts and stuff is okay.
> Get rich quick and porn is not
> !) However because my foum pag
> e is so thin it might be a goo
> d idea to start a new thread.
hmm. unmoderated. so i can write a bunch of unwanted stuff, as long as i'm not selling porn? heh.
(steve.. this box is tiny!!)
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- Re: 4.7L Engine Swap - Steven Benner 07/15/02 (1)
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