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Posted By:	Gopher
Posted On:	November 26, 2004 at 02:58 am GMST

Don't waste your time or money on expensive coilovers. Get yourself some linear rate springs, like TRD, and are readily available at rhys millen racing. Don't get anything higher than 6 kg/mm for the front, as its more difficult to use weight transfer to initiate a drift with a stiff setup. At 6 kg/mm in front, its certainly stiff, but give enough for the nose to dive to easily utilize weight transfer.

Get some good short stroke shocks. Any shock will work from an SW20. doesn't need to be adjustble even. HTS is better suited for someone who knows what they are doing and can effectively play with the adjustment settings.

For the rear, linear rate works best again, with short stroke. I'd recomment anything in the 4 kg range (4.1, 4.3, 4.7). A friend of mine uses 5.5 for more control at higher speeds, and he's great with them.

as for rear shocks, short stroke helps again. Anything from a 87-93 mustang or 85-91 camaro will work. mustang are shorter but require you to re-use your ae86 bushings for the eye and the top mount. either way use your money for performance shocks, not gabriel or kyb GR2 or anything else like those.

you definately will need a lateral rod to re-center the rear, so that your tires won't rub if you dont use oem wheels, and to tighten up the rear in general. I'd recomment a battlerversion unit, since one side is a poly bushing and other side is spherical. the double spherical is too harsh for anything less than a track only vehicle.

with the money you saved on non-coilovers or a JDM front end or anything else, buy the most important part of your future drift vehicle, an LSD. Any of the aftermarket companies will work great. OEM rebuilt even works well, but not as well as the four pinion ones. KAAZ seems to be the most popular as their customer service is fantastic and they ship promptly. give them a call directly to order one.

My other suggestion (motor wise) is to get a high comp stock 4AG. Kids talk all day long about turbo 4ag's and GZE, but in reality, the N/A blue top or redtop is a better learning tool than anything else. the GZE and turbocharged engines are better left in the hands of seasoned drivers, and in addition you have to purchase many other pieces to properly balance your AE86 like upgraded radiator, oil cooler, better brakes, brake lines, rotors, ect if you go with big power. Stock of all the above will be ok for a lightly modded blue or redtop motor.

most importantly you need to spend money on driving events. you won't learn anything by just slapping parts on your car, so you are better off not buying parts until you need them.

Get grippy tires for the front, and thinner less grippy for the rear to begin with, and learn to whip the back end around (I for instance can initiate but not control the car after initiation well). once you learn control, you can use the same tire at all four corners for good balance. I use Azens 195/60/14 up front with about 3 degrees of negative camber, and 185/60/14 rear AVS or anything else in that size in back.

Anyone done this? Or have any ideas if the corolla stuff with fit my 82 gt?

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Re: Interesting? - CJ M 11/26/04 (2)

Re: Interesting? - Derek 11/27/04 (1)

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Message:	Gopher wrote: > Don't waste your time or money > on expensive coilovers. Get y > ourself some linear rate sprin > gs, like TRD, and are readily > available at rhys millen racin > g. Don't get anything higher t > han 6 kg/mm for the front, as > its more difficult to use weig > ht transfer to initiate a drif > t with a stiff setup. At 6 kg/ > mm in front, its certainly sti > ff, but give enough for the no > se to dive to easily utilize w > eight transfer. > > Get some good short stroke sho > cks. Any shock will work from > an SW20. doesn't need to be ad > justble even. HTS is better su > ited for someone who knows wha > t they are doing and can effec > tively play with the adjustmen > t settings. > > For the rear, linear rate work > s best again, with short strok > e. I'd recomment anything in t > he 4 kg range (4.1, 4.3, 4.7). > A friend of mine uses 5.5 for > more control at higher speeds > , and he's great with them. > > as for rear shocks, short stro > ke helps again. Anything from > a 87-93 mustang or 85-91 camar > o will work. mustang are short > er but require you to re-use y > our ae86 bushings for the eye > and the top mount. either way > use your money for performance > shocks, not gabriel or kyb GR > 2 or anything else like those. > > you definately will need a lat > eral rod to re-center the rear > , so that your tires won't rub > if you dont use oem wheels, a > nd to tighten up the rear in g > eneral. I'd recomment a battle > rversion unit, since one side > is a poly bushing and other si > de is spherical. the double sp > herical is too harsh for anyth > ing less than a track only veh > icle. > > with the money you saved on no > n-coilovers or a JDM front end > or anything else, buy the mos > t important part of your futur > e drift vehicle, an LSD. Any o > f the aftermarket companies wi > ll work great. OEM rebuilt eve > n works well, but not as well > as the four pinion ones. KAAZ > seems to be the most popular a > s their customer service is fa > ntastic and they ship promptly > . give them a call directly to > order one. > > My other suggestion (motor wis > e) is to get a high comp stock > 4AG. Kids talk all day long a > bout turbo 4ag's and GZE, but > in reality, the N/A blue top o > r redtop is a better learning > tool than anything else. the G > ZE and turbocharged engines ar > e better left in the hands of > seasoned drivers, and in addit > ion you have to purchase many > other pieces to properly balan > ce your AE86 like upgraded rad > iator, oil cooler, better brak > es, brake lines, rotors, ect i > f you go with big power. Stock > of all the above will be ok f > or a lightly modded blue or re > dtop motor. > > most importantly you need to s > pend money on driving events. > you won't learn anything by ju > st slapping parts on your car, > so you are better off not buy > ing parts until you need them. > > Get grippy tires for the front > , and thinner less grippy for > the rear to begin with, and le > arn to whip the back end aroun > d (I for instance can initiate > but not control the car after > initiation well). once you le > arn control, you can use the s > ame tire at all four corners f > or good balance. I use Azens 1 > 95/60/14 up front with about 3 > degrees of negative camber, a > nd 185/60/14 rear AVS or anyth > ing else in that size in back. > > Anyone done this? Or have any > ideas if the corolla stuff wi > th fit my 82 gt?
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