Author Topic: Complete Engine Weight Chart (Read 132088 times)

rwdfreak · « **on:** Nov 23, 2007, 01:40:05 am »

Here is the ultimate engine weight chart.

Those are figures for long block plus EFI, but w/o flywheel, turbo or accessories.
22RE - 318lb
5M-GE - 340lb
7M-GTE - 420lb
1UZ-FE - 395lb
1JZ/2JZ ≈ 450lb
1G-GTE ≈ 385lb

Those are for complete running order engine minus intercooler and intake piping.
2JZ-GTE - 594 lbs w/ Getrag V160 or A340 - 746lbs
1JZ-GTE - 700lb with R154
1UZ + w58 ≈ 580lb
7M-GTE + R154 ≈ 640lb
22RE + w58 ≈ 500lb

Tranny (w/ bellhousing)
W50 - 110lb (steel case)
W5X - 90lb (aluminum case)
R154 - 125lb
V160 - 130lb

Auto (w/o torque converter, w/o fluid)
A40 - 110lb
A340 - 125lb

More engines and link to the original list
http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t...?t=97320&page=2

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engine pounds comments
Alfa Romeo SOHC V6 375
Alfa Romeo 1600 261 (with cams, generator, distributer, oil, etc but no manifolds or carbs)
AMC V8 540 (late design V8s)
AMC V8 600 (early design V8s)
AMC 6 500 (early design six - 199)
Audi 2.0 L4 335
Audi 5 364 (non-turbo)
Audi 80 1300 230
Audi 100 1500 240
Audi V6 2.8 354

BMW M52 3.3,3.5 Big Six 500
BMW M60 B 40 4.0 V8 468
BMW M60 Small Six 388
BMW slant-6 turbodiesel 430
BMW 5.0 V12 529 "fully dressed"
BMW 3.0,4.0 V8 462 all aluminum
BMW 2.3 turbo Diesel 408 iron block, alum head, "complete"
BMW S14 four 350 318i motor
Buick 3.0 V6 1985-up 350
Buick even-fire 3.8 380
Buick 4.1 V6 410
Buick 3.0 V6 377
Buick/Rover 215 V8 318 (and Olds)
Buick 350 V8 450 "lightest of GMs iron V8s"
Buick 430-455 V8 600 (one ref showed 640) (10 - 600)

Cadillac V8 390 720 (1959)
Cadillac V8 472-500 625
Cadillac Northstar V8 464 (dressed)
Cadillac 4.9L (300 ci) 360 1991 DeVille, w/alt & flexplate
Chevy Sprint 993cc L3 147 (Suzuki mfr)
Chevy 1.8-2.0 L4 302 "J car" pushrod
Chevy Chevette 1.6 SOHC 300 (also Opel)
Chevy Vega L4 285
Chevy II 153 L4 350
Chevy Corvair flat 6 300
Chevy L6 194-250 440
Chevy L6 216/235 630
Chevy V6-90 229-4.3 425
Chevy V6-60 2.8, 3.1 350
Chevy small block V8 575 (generic for 1960s-1970s motors)
Chevy small block V8 535 (1959 Corvette 283 w/alum. intake)
Chevy small block LS1 460
Chevy LT-5 L98 5.7 V8 600
Chevy V8 348/408 655
Chevy big block V8 685 Mark IV
Chevy 7.4L V8 656 iron, no intake, exh, carb, starter
Chevy 427 ZL-1 550 all-aluminum, "20# lighter than SB"
Chevy 6.5L Diesel V8 644
Chevy 400 SB 470 aluminum heads and intake, no acc. or wp
Chevy 396 BB 610 iron heads, alum. wp and intake, no acc.
Chrysler 2.2, 2.5 L4 276
Chrysler 413 wedge 640 (1959 300-E)
Chrysler 331 Hemi 745 1955
Citroen 2.0 Douvrin 4 263
Cosworth HB Series 6 286 75 deg V8 595mmL
Cosworth DFR V8 308 90 degree bank angle
Cosworth V8 370 1967, with clutch and injection

Dodge Colt (Japanese) 212 also Plymouth Champ, 1.4, 1.6L four
Dodge V8 645 (241-325 CID, 1950s)
Dodge Viper V10 716 with accessories
Dodge Viper V10 (1997) 648
Dodge truck V10 816

Ferrari "250" V12 382
Ferrari 456 V12 517 65 degree, 5.5L, 1992
Ferrari F50 4.7L V12 432 iron block, titanium rods
FIAT/Ferrari Dino V6 285
Fiat Twin Cam 272 four cyl, from Fiat 128
Ford 1600 CVH 282 (US Escort)
Ford 2.3 Lima/Pinto L4 450 (turbo)
Ford 2.3 L4 Turbo 380 Turbo T-Bird engine w/turbo, flywheel
Ford Zetec 238
Ford Capri/Pinto V6 365 2.6, 2.8L Cologne
Ford England Essex V6 379 (3 liter)
Ford 3.8 V6-90 298 "complete"
Ford Duratec 2.5/3.0 V6 360 ("fully dressed")
Ford/Mazda Mondeo V6 225 60 deg, all aluminum, 4v
Ford Taurus SHO 3.0/3.2 465 Taurus SHO V6
Ford 170-250 L6 385 (except Australian w/aluminum head)
Ford 4.2 V6 488 flexplate and front dress, no A/C compressor. Shipping wt w/skid
Ford 3.8L V6 376 1998 Mustang, dressed (dry)
Ford flathead V8 569 (1953 239 CID)
Ford 255 Windsor 468
Ford 289/302 V8 460 (late 5.0s are a bit lighter)
Ford 5.0 V8 411 89 Mustang 5.0 GT (dry) inc: manifold, Not inc: acc.
Ford BOSS 302 500
Ford 351 Cleveland 550 (includes BOSS and Australian 302-C)
Ford 351 Windsor 510
Ford 351M-400 575
Ford Y block V8 625 (272-312 CID)
Ford FE big block 650 (332-428 CID)
Ford 427 SOHC 680
Ford 429/460 V8 640
Ford 429-460 720
Ford 4.6 SOHC 530 iron block, aluminum heads
Ford 4.6 DOHC 521 aluminum block and heads
Ford Taurus SHO 3.2 V8 390 Taurus SHO V8, no accessories
Ford Triton V10 635 "dressed"

Honda RA168E F1 V6 329 80 deg, 1500cc
Honda 24V V6 491 Acura Legend motor
Honda B18B four 326 1995 Civic
Honda B20B four 318 1997 Civic
Honda Civic 1200 161 1974 Civic, excluding clutch and radiator
Honda Civic 1500 205 1974 Civic, as above

Infiniti Q45 V8 509 "45 pounds heavier than Ford DOHC"

Isuzu 1.8 Diesel L4 384 (4)
Isuzu 1.8 gas L4 311 (4)

Jaguar V12 680
Jaguar/Orbital 3.2 V6 359 supercharged two stroke
Jaguar 4.2L six 604
Jaguar XJ220 V6 427 complete w/turbos, wiring
Jaguar AJ6 4.0L 531
Jaguar AJV8 4.0L 441 "fully dressed"
Jaguar 3.4-liter XK 576 flywheel, electrical equipment, and exhaust manifolds.
Jaguar 3.8 six 592 dress as above
Jaguar 4.2 six 605 dress as above
Jaguar 5.3 V12 612 dress as above
Jaguar 3.6 six 430 "test bed condition"

Lotus 907 (Esprit) 275 inc. alt. & starter, no clutch

Mazda 12A and 13B 260
Mazda 10A rotary 268 (R100) (bare)
Mazda 12A rotary 356 (Japanese model turbo, EFI)
Mazda 13G 3-rotor race 319 3-rotor race motor, with accessories
Mazda 13B FI 337 1986-1992 160hp (w/oil and water)
Mercedes SOHC V8 alum. 452
Mercedes SOHC V8 iron 540
Mercedes 5.6L V8 467
Mercedes OM 615 Diesel 447
Mercedes 2.8/4.2 V6 331 1997, SOHC 3V, "shipped for assembly"
Mercedes 3.2L V6 330 1997 SOHC, 90 deg, 3 valve
Mercedes 5.8L V12 490 1997, 3 valve
Mopar Slant Six 475
Mopar 273-340 "A" V8 525
Mopar 360 "A" 550
Mopar 361-383-400 V8 620
Mopar 413-426W-440 V8 670
Mopar Street Hemi 765 (690 bare)

Nissan CA20 FWD 269 belt cam
Nissan Z20 NAPS-Z 2.0 346 RWD chain cam
Nissan Maxima V6 3.0 264 60 deg, racing SR2
Nissan VG33 3.3L 433 un-dressed, SOHC V6
Nissan L series 265 1.6 and 1.8, and NAPS-Z
Nissan 3.0 V6 360 300ZX, Maxima, and pickup. SOHC

Olds 304 "Rocket" V8 671 first Olds V8, 1949
Olds 330 J2 700 (first generation V8)
Olds 330-400 560 low deck, w/accessories, no flywheel
Olds 371, 394 760
Olds 400-455 620 high deck w/accessories, no flywheel
Olds 262 V6 Diesel 590 (from GM SAE paper)
Opel 2.8-3.0 CIH L6 395

Peugeot Douvrin 2.0 4 263
Peugeot 104 1400 260 includes transaxle
Peugeot Indenor XD-90 415 Diesel, aluminum head and sump
Peugeot 16 valve 316
Peugeot ES9 J4 3.0L 473 fully dressed, all alloy 24V, 60 deg. V6
Pontiac L4 350 Iron Duke, Tech IV
Pontiac Tempest slant 4 470
Pontiac SOHC 6 450
Pontiac 389 V8 650
Pontiac 301 V8 452
Porsche 914/4 265
Porsche 912 210 1582cc
Porsche 914 1980cc 311
Porsche 4.7 SOHC V8 574
Porsche 901 6 401 (1963)

Rambler 327 V8 600
Renault 2.0 4 Douvrin 263
Renault 2.8 V6 375 (also DeLorean, Peugeot, Volvo)
Renault E-series 1.2L 238
Rover 3.0 SOHC L6 432
Rover 2000 four 312 1960s engine
Rover KV-6 2.5L 335 "fully equipped"

Subaru 2.2L 269 aero conversion
Subaru 1.8L four 188 pushrod, 1781cc

Toyota 1G-EU 2.6 L6 340 with oil and coolant (SOHC)
Toyota 1G-GEU 2.0 L6 355 with oil and coolant (DOHC)
Toyota 4M Hemi L6 400
Toyota V6 469 1992 Camry iron V6
Toyota V6 3.0L 401 1994 Camry aluminum V6 1MZ-FE
Toyota RV8A Indy V8 225 1996,as used in Gurney Eagle
Toyota R32V GT1 V8 352 twin turbo DOHC race engine, 1988
Toyota 4A-GE four 340 iron block
Toyota 2TC, 2TG, 3TC 262 1971-up, 1.6-1.8 four cyl, 2TG is DOHC
Toyota 1A, 3A, 4A 225 Tercel, MR2, 1984-up Corolla, 1985-up
Toyota 3SG 293 Celica DOHC 16 valve
Toyota 2GR-FE (3.5L) 359lbs
Toyota 1-2-4GR-FSE 399lbs

Triumph slant-4 290 (also SAAB 99)
Triumph 2000 L6 403 (Spitfire, 2.5 TRs)
Triumph Stag V8 446

VW flat-4 Type IV 311
VW flat-4 Type 1 250 1600cc dual port, fully dressed
VW 1.5L L4 Diesel 246 w/ oil, int/exh man, no alt. or starter
VW Rabbit 1.6-1.7-1.8 231 Dasher, Scirocco, Jetta, Omni, Horizon

Volvo B20E 340
Volvo B21F&B23F 365
Volvo 3.0 L6 DOHC 401 all aluminum
Volvo V6 350 90 deg, aluminum, DeLorean, Peugeot, Renault

83GTCoupe · « **Reply #1 on:** Nov 23, 2007, 01:51:39 am »

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Cadillac V8 472-500 625

Well that explains why my engine stand wasn't enough. I have a bottle jack and a hunk of 2x4 supporting the front of my Cadillac engine to keep it from destroying the engine stand. I noticed it had one hell of a "forward hang" to it once I got it all bolted up to the stand.

rwdfreak · « **Reply #2 on:** Nov 23, 2007, 02:07:27 am »

The worst thing is that it's realy close to a 2JZ. That's 4.7 liter less for the same weight.

83GTCoupe · « **Reply #3 on:** Nov 23, 2007, 02:13:29 am »

Damn. I didn't notice that. :o The Caddy is 8.2Liter. I think it's close to, or more than 10Liters once it's bored and stroked to 560, but I can't remember. I was reading the articles many years ago about that.

danf · « **Reply #4 on:** Nov 23, 2007, 03:01:17 am »

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Cadillac V8 472-500 625
Well that explains why my engine stand wasn't enough. I have a bottle jack and a hunk of 2x4 supporting the front of my Cadillac engine to keep it from destroying the engine stand. I noticed it had one hell of a "forward hang" to it once I got it all bolted up to the stand.

Haha... I was wondering how heavy the 368/425/500 block was. I remember lifting my spare block into my trunk for recycling. Heavy sonofab**ch. I also seem to remember my back being sore for a couple weeks after that.

Nukes25 · « **Reply #5 on:** Nov 23, 2007, 03:16:35 am »

"Weight - 7M-GTE long block 207kg (456lb)"

damn, I knew it was heavy when I pulled it outta the truck

sirdan · « **Reply #6 on:** Nov 23, 2007, 03:38:03 am »

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Chrysler M4 tank engine 5,244 (87) 30 cyl, 5 banks of 6, flathead, WWII

i want that engine in my celica.

a2ndopinion · « **Reply #7 on:** Nov 23, 2007, 03:51:33 am »

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Chrysler M4 tank engine 5,244 (87) 30 cyl, 5 banks of 6, flathead, WWII
i want that engine in my celica.

That engine is bigger than your Celica!

shonuff · « **Reply #8 on:** Jan 11, 2008, 11:57:56 pm »

i got a scale

A40-d no torque converter, flex plate or fluid

20r head no rocker arm assembly

w50 w/ crossmember

w58 no crossmember

up coming things to weigh:

2xr hybrid w/sc
2nd gen celi axl vs 3rd vs mk1 supra
2nd gen vs 3rd strut towers and hubs
22r head +intake+carb
22re head + intake+ wierd electric fuel junk

22r block
20r block

if ya can think of anything else ya need to know let me know and ill try if i got the part lyin around

Sigma Projects · « **Reply #9 on:** Jan 15, 2008, 06:17:29 am »

sweet, lots of nice info.

according to toyotatuners.com

1GR-FE (4.0L) 395lbs
2GR-FE (3.5L) 359lbs
2GR-FSE (3.5L) 399lbs
4GR-FSE (2.5L) 397lbs

link to the forum thread.

Teranfirbt · « **Reply #10 on:** Jan 15, 2008, 06:51:49 am »

Damn, looks like direct injection adds a lot of weight...

Sigma Projects · « **Reply #11 on:** Jan 15, 2008, 07:14:13 am »

yea, but I guess it's worth it

Plus I'm not sure if there is other things that have been modified to the FSE head and such that makes it heavier.

Sigma Projects · « **Reply #12 on:** Mar 17, 2008, 08:46:38 pm »

1G-FE 388.63lbs (176.65kgs)
http://www.toymods.net/mos/img/1G/1G%20eng...ne%20weight.JPG

maybe someone can update the list?

ILL83GT · « **Reply #13 on:** Mar 28, 2008, 09:03:29 pm »

2RZ weigh more than 22RE?

rwdfreak · « **Reply #14 on:** Mar 09, 2010, 10:15:23 pm »

After more investigation I've came up with some better approximation of the engine weight.

Those are figures for long block plus EFI, but w/o flywheel, turbo or accessories.

22RE - 318lb
5M-GE - 340lb
7M-GTE - 420lb
1UZ-FE - 395lb

Aproximate
1JZ-GTE - 450lb
2JZ-GTE (same as the 1JZ)
1G-GTE - 385lb

Those are for complete running order engine minus intercooler and intake piping
2JZ-GTE - 594 lbs
With Getrag Six Speed or A340 - 746lbs
1JZ-GTE - 700lb with R154

Tranny (w/ bellhousing)
W50 - 110lb (steel case)
W5X - 90lb (aluminum case)
R154 - 115lb
V160 - 130lb

Auto (w/o torque converter, w/o fluid)
A40 - 110lb
A340 - 125lb

And some of my sources that made me update the list.
Sources:
1JZ: http://www.toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?t=27880
7M-GTE and 22RE: http://www.celica-gts.com/forums/index.php?topic=4252.0
1UZ: http://www.lextreme.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1497 et http://www.lextreme.com/forums/showt...?t=7200&page=6
5M-GE: http://www3.sympatico.ca/dean.anderson4/weights.html
2JZ: http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=524263

And yes 1JZ/2JZ exhaust manifold and turbo's are fucking heavy. Going single isn't only an power upgrade it's at the same time a weight deduction.