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« on: Nov 23, 2007, 01:40:05 am »
Here is the ultimate engine weight chart.

Those are figures for long block plus EFI, but w/o flywheel, turbo or accessories.
22RE - 318lb
5M-GE - 340lb
7M-GTE - 420lb
1UZ-FE - 395lb
1JZ/2JZ ≈ 450lb
1G-GTE ≈ 385lb

Those are for complete running order engine minus intercooler and intake piping.
2JZ-GTE - 594 lbs  w/  Getrag V160 or A340 - 746lbs
1JZ-GTE - 700lb with R154
1UZ + w58 ≈ 580lb
7M-GTE + R154 ≈ 640lb
22RE + w58 ≈ 500lb

Tranny (w/ bellhousing)
W50 - 110lb (steel case)
W5X - 90lb (aluminum case)
R154 - 125lb
V160 - 130lb

Auto (w/o torque converter, w/o fluid)
A40 - 110lb
A340 - 125lb

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engine         pounds     comments
Alfa Romeo SOHC V6   375  
Alfa Romeo 1600       261    (with cams, generator, distributer, oil, etc but no manifolds or carbs)
AMC V8      540         (late design V8s)
AMC V8      600         (early design V8s)
AMC 6        500         (early design six - 199)
Audi 2.0 L4             335    
Audi 5                 364     (non-turbo)
Audi 80 1300            230
Audi 100 1500           240
Audi V6 2.8             354

BMW M52 3.3,3.5 Big Six 500    
BMW M60 B 40 4.0 V8     468    
BMW M60 Small Six       388    
BMW slant-6 turbodiesel 430
BMW 5.0 V12             529     "fully dressed"
BMW 3.0,4.0 V8          462     all aluminum
BMW 2.3 turbo Diesel    408   iron block, alum head, "complete"
BMW S14 four            350     318i motor
Buick 3.0 V6 1985-up     350
Buick even-fire 3.8     380    
Buick 4.1 V6            410  
Buick 3.0 V6            377  
Buick/Rover 215 V8      318         (and Olds)
Buick 350 V8            450     "lightest of GMs iron V8s"
Buick 430-455 V8        600   (one ref showed 640) (10 - 600)

Cadillac V8 390         720     (1959)
Cadillac V8 472-500     625
Cadillac Northstar V8   464     (dressed)
Cadillac 4.9L (300 ci)  360    1991 DeVille, w/alt & flexplate
Chevy Sprint 993cc L3   147     (Suzuki mfr)
Chevy 1.8-2.0 L4        302     "J car" pushrod
Chevy Chevette 1.6 SOHC 300     (also Opel)
Chevy Vega L4           285
Chevy II 153 L4         350
Chevy Corvair flat 6    300    
Chevy L6 194-250        440
Chevy L6 216/235        630    
Chevy V6-90 229-4.3    425
Chevy V6-60 2.8, 3.1    350
Chevy small block V8    575   (generic for 1960s-1970s motors)
Chevy small block V8    535     (1959 Corvette 283 w/alum. intake)
Chevy small block LS1   460  
Chevy LT-5 L98 5.7 V8        600    
Chevy V8 348/408        655
Chevy big block V8      685    Mark IV
Chevy 7.4L V8         656    iron, no intake, exh, carb, starter
Chevy 427 ZL-1         550  all-aluminum, "20# lighter than SB"
Chevy 6.5L Diesel V8    644  
Chevy 400 SB         470   aluminum heads and intake, no acc. or wp
Chevy 396 BB         610    iron heads, alum. wp and intake, no acc.
Chrysler 2.2, 2.5 L4    276    
Chrysler 413 wedge    640   (1959 300-E)
Chrysler 331 Hemi     745   1955
Citroen 2.0 Douvrin 4   263
Cosworth HB Series 6    286     75 deg V8  595mmL
Cosworth DFR V8         308     90 degree bank angle
Cosworth V8             370     1967, with clutch and injection

Dodge Colt (Japanese)   212     also Plymouth Champ, 1.4, 1.6L four
Dodge V8             645     (241-325 CID, 1950s)
Dodge Viper V10         716     with accessories
Dodge Viper V10 (1997)   648    
Dodge truck V10         816    

Ferrari "250" V12       382    
Ferrari 456 V12         517     65 degree, 5.5L, 1992
Ferrari F50 4.7L V12    432     iron block, titanium rods
FIAT/Ferrari Dino V6    285    
Fiat Twin Cam           272     four cyl, from Fiat 128
Ford 1600 CVH           282  (US Escort)  
Ford 2.3 Lima/Pinto L4  450  (turbo)
Ford 2.3 L4 Turbo     380     Turbo T-Bird engine w/turbo, flywheel
Ford Zetec              238  
Ford Capri/Pinto V6     365     2.6, 2.8L Cologne
Ford England Essex V6   379     (3 liter)
Ford 3.8 V6-90          298     "complete"
Ford Duratec 2.5/3.0 V6 360     ("fully dressed")
Ford/Mazda Mondeo V6    225    60 deg, all aluminum, 4v
Ford Taurus SHO 3.0/3.2 465     Taurus SHO V6
Ford 170-250 L6         385   (except Australian w/aluminum head)
Ford 4.2 V6     488   flexplate and front dress, no A/C compressor. Shipping wt w/skid
Ford 3.8L V6            376     1998 Mustang, dressed (dry)
Ford flathead V8     569     (1953 239 CID)
Ford 255 Windsor   468    
Ford 289/302 V8     460     (late 5.0s are a bit lighter)
Ford 5.0 V8             411     89 Mustang 5.0 GT (dry) inc: manifold, Not inc: acc.
Ford BOSS 302       500    
Ford 351 Cleveland 550     (includes BOSS and Australian 302-C)
Ford 351 Windsor   510
Ford 351M-400      575    
Ford Y block V8    625 (272-312 CID)
Ford FE big block 650  (332-428 CID)
Ford 427 SOHC   680  
Ford 429/460 V8  640
Ford 429-460      720    
Ford 4.6 SOHC   530    iron block, aluminum heads
Ford 4.6 DOHC  521  aluminum block and heads
Ford Taurus SHO 3.2 V8  390  Taurus SHO V8, no accessories
Ford Triton V10         635     "dressed"

Honda RA168E F1 V6      329     80 deg, 1500cc
Honda 24V V6            491     Acura Legend motor
Honda B18B four         326     1995 Civic
Honda B20B four         318     1997 Civic
Honda Civic 1200        161      1974 Civic, excluding clutch and radiator
Honda Civic 1500        205     1974 Civic, as above

Infiniti Q45 V8   509 "45 pounds heavier than Ford DOHC"

Isuzu 1.8 Diesel L4     384     (4)
Isuzu 1.8 gas L4        311     (4)

Jaguar V12              680    
Jaguar/Orbital 3.2 V6   359     supercharged two stroke
Jaguar 4.2L six         604    
Jaguar XJ220 V6         427    complete w/turbos, wiring
Jaguar AJ6 4.0L         531    
Jaguar AJV8 4.0L        441     "fully dressed"
Jaguar 3.4-liter XK     576     flywheel, electrical equipment, and exhaust manifolds.
Jaguar 3.8 six          592     dress as above
Jaguar 4.2 six          605     dress as above
Jaguar 5.3 V12          612     dress as above
Jaguar 3.6 six          430     "test bed condition"

Lotus 907 (Esprit)      275     inc. alt. & starter, no clutch

Mazda 12A and 13B       260    
Mazda 10A rotary        268     (R100) (bare)
Mazda 12A rotary        356     (Japanese model turbo, EFI)
Mazda 13G 3-rotor race  319     3-rotor race motor, with accessories
Mazda 13B FI         337    1986-1992 160hp (w/oil and water)
Mercedes SOHC V8 alum.  452  
Mercedes SOHC V8 iron   540    
Mercedes 5.6L V8        467
Mercedes OM 615 Diesel  447    
Mercedes 2.8/4.2 V6     331     1997, SOHC 3V, "shipped for assembly"
Mercedes 3.2L V6        330     1997 SOHC, 90 deg, 3 valve
Mercedes 5.8L V12       490     1997, 3 valve
Mopar Slant Six         475
Mopar 273-340 "A" V8    525
Mopar 360 "A"           550
Mopar 361-383-400 V8    620    
Mopar 413-426W-440 V8   670    
Mopar Street Hemi       765         (690 bare)

Nissan CA20 FWD         269     belt cam
Nissan Z20 NAPS-Z 2.0   346     RWD chain cam
Nissan Maxima V6 3.0    264     60 deg, racing SR2
Nissan VG33 3.3L        433     un-dressed, SOHC V6
Nissan L series         265     1.6 and 1.8, and NAPS-Z
Nissan 3.0 V6         360     300ZX, Maxima, and pickup. SOHC

Olds 304 "Rocket" V8  671     first Olds V8, 1949
Olds 330 J2         700         (first generation V8)
Olds 330-400      560     low deck, w/accessories, no flywheel
Olds 371, 394      760
Olds 400-455      620     high deck w/accessories, no flywheel
Olds 262 V6 Diesel   590     (from GM SAE paper)
Opel 2.8-3.0 CIH L6     395        

Peugeot Douvrin 2.0 4   263  
Peugeot 104 1400        260     includes transaxle
Peugeot Indenor XD-90   415    Diesel, aluminum head and sump
Peugeot 16 valve        316    
Peugeot ES9 J4 3.0L     473     fully dressed, all alloy 24V, 60 deg. V6
Pontiac L4             350         Iron Duke, Tech IV
Pontiac Tempest slant 4 470
Pontiac SOHC 6          450
Pontiac 389 V8          650
Pontiac 301 V8          452
Porsche 914/4      265
Porsche 912         210   1582cc
Porsche 914 1980cc   311    
Porsche 4.7 SOHC V8 574
Porsche 901 6       401 (1963)

Rambler 327 V8  600
Renault 2.0 4 Douvrin   263    
Renault 2.8 V6          375  (also DeLorean, Peugeot, Volvo)  
Renault E-series 1.2L   238    
Rover 3.0 SOHC L6   432    
Rover 2000 four         312   1960s engine
Rover KV-6 2.5L       335     "fully equipped"

Subaru 2.2L             269     aero conversion
Subaru 1.8L four        188     pushrod, 1781cc

Toyota 1G-EU 2.6 L6     340     with oil and coolant (SOHC)
Toyota 1G-GEU 2.0 L6    355     with oil and coolant (DOHC)
Toyota 4M Hemi L6       400    
Toyota V6             469     1992 Camry iron V6
Toyota V6 3.0L          401     1994 Camry aluminum V6 1MZ-FE
Toyota RV8A Indy V8     225     1996,as used in Gurney Eagle
Toyota R32V GT1 V8      352     twin turbo DOHC race engine, 1988
Toyota 4A-GE four       340     iron block
Toyota 2TC, 2TG, 3TC    262     1971-up, 1.6-1.8 four cyl,  2TG is DOHC
Toyota 1A, 3A, 4A       225     Tercel, MR2, 1984-up Corolla, 1985-up
Toyota 3SG             293     Celica DOHC 16 valve
Toyota 2GR-FE (3.5L) 359lbs
Toyota 1-2-4GR-FSE  399lbs

Triumph slant-4         290     (also SAAB 99)
Triumph 2000 L6         403    (Spitfire, 2.5 TRs)
Triumph Stag V8         446

VW flat-4 Type IV   311
VW flat-4 Type 1     250    1600cc dual port, fully dressed
VW 1.5L L4 Diesel       246     w/ oil, int/exh man, no alt. or starter
VW Rabbit 1.6-1.7-1.8   231     Dasher, Scirocco, Jetta, Omni, Horizon

Volvo B20E    340    
Volvo B21F&B23F   365    
Volvo 3.0 L6 DOHC  401    all aluminum
Volvo V6     350 90 deg, aluminum, DeLorean, Peugeot, Renault
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« Reply #1 on: Nov 23, 2007, 01:51:39 am »
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Cadillac V8 472-500    625
:eek: Well that explains why my engine stand wasn't enough. I have a bottle jack and a hunk of 2x4 supporting the front of my Cadillac engine to keep it from destroying the engine stand. I noticed it had one hell of a "forward hang" to it once I got it all bolted up to the stand.
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« Reply #2 on: Nov 23, 2007, 02:07:27 am »
The worst thing is that it's realy close to a 2JZ. That's 4.7 liter less for the same weight.  
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« Reply #3 on: Nov 23, 2007, 02:13:29 am »
Damn. I didn't notice that. :o  The Caddy is 8.2Liter. I think it's close to, or more than 10Liters once it's bored and stroked to 560, but I can't remember. I was reading the articles many years ago about that.
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« Reply #4 on: Nov 23, 2007, 03:01:17 am »
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Cadillac V8 472-500    625
:eek: Well that explains why my engine stand wasn't enough. I have a bottle jack and a hunk of 2x4 supporting the front of my Cadillac engine to keep it from destroying the engine stand. I noticed it had one hell of a "forward hang" to it once I got it all bolted up to the stand.
Haha... I was wondering how heavy the 368/425/500 block was. I remember lifting my spare block into my trunk for recycling. Heavy sonofab**ch. I also seem to remember my back being sore for a couple weeks after that.  :ph34r:  
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« Reply #5 on: Nov 23, 2007, 03:16:35 am »
"Weight - 7M-GTE long block 207kg (456lb)"

damn, I knew it was heavy when I pulled it outta the truck :P
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« Reply #6 on: Nov 23, 2007, 03:38:03 am »
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Chrysler M4 tank engine 5,244  (87) 30 cyl, 5 banks of 6, flathead, WWII
i want that engine in my celica.
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« Reply #7 on: Nov 23, 2007, 03:51:33 am »
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Chrysler M4 tank engine 5,244  (87) 30 cyl, 5 banks of 6, flathead, WWII
i want that engine in my celica.
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« Reply #8 on: Jan 11, 2008, 11:57:56 pm »
i got a scale :thumbs:


A40-d  no torque converter, flex plate or fluid



20r head no rocker arm assembly


w50 w/ crossmember


w58 no crossmember


up coming things to weigh:

2xr hybrid w/sc
2nd gen celi axl vs 3rd vs mk1 supra
2nd gen vs 3rd strut towers and hubs
22r head +intake+carb
22re head + intake+ wierd electric fuel junk :P

22r block
20r block

if ya can think of anything else ya need to know let me know and ill try if i got the part lyin around
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« Reply #9 on: Jan 15, 2008, 06:17:29 am »
sweet, lots of nice info.

according to toyotatuners.com

1GR-FE (4.0L) 395lbs
2GR-FE (3.5L) 359lbs
2GR-FSE (3.5L) 399lbs
4GR-FSE (2.5L) 397lbs

link to the forum thread.
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« Reply #10 on: Jan 15, 2008, 06:51:49 am »
Damn, looks like direct injection adds a lot of weight...
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« Reply #11 on: Jan 15, 2008, 07:14:13 am »
yea, but I guess it's worth it :P  Plus I'm not sure if there is other things that have been modified to the FSE head and such that makes it heavier.
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« Reply #12 on: Mar 17, 2008, 08:46:38 pm »
1G-FE 388.63lbs (176.65kgs)
http://www.toymods.net/mos/img/1G/1G%20eng...ne%20weight.JPG

maybe someone can update the list?
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« Reply #13 on: Mar 28, 2008, 09:03:29 pm »
2RZ weigh more than 22RE?
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« Reply #14 on: Mar 09, 2010, 10:15:23 pm »
After more investigation I've came up with some better approximation of the engine weight.

Those are figures for long block plus EFI, but w/o flywheel, turbo or accessories.

22RE - 318lb
5M-GE - 340lb
7M-GTE - 420lb
1UZ-FE - 395lb

Aproximate
1JZ-GTE - 450lb
2JZ-GTE (same as the 1JZ)
1G-GTE - 385lb

Those are for complete running order engine minus intercooler and intake piping
2JZ-GTE - 594 lbs
With Getrag Six Speed or A340 - 746lbs
1JZ-GTE - 700lb with R154

Tranny (w/ bellhousing)
W50 - 110lb (steel case)
W5X - 90lb (aluminum case)
R154 - 115lb
V160 - 130lb

Auto (w/o torque converter, w/o fluid)
A40 - 110lb
A340 - 125lb

And some of my sources that made me update the list.
Sources:
1JZ: http://www.toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?t=27880
7M-GTE and 22RE: http://www.celica-gts.com/forums/index.php?topic=4252.0
1UZ: http://www.lextreme.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1497 et http://www.lextreme.com/forums/showt...?t=7200&page=6
5M-GE: http://www3.sympatico.ca/dean.anderson4/weights.html
2JZ: http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=524263

And yes 1JZ/2JZ exhaust manifold and turbo's are fucking heavy. Going single isn't only an power upgrade it's at the same time a weight deduction.
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