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Whats better in your opinion? N/A setup or Forced Induction?

N/A
4 (30.8%)
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Offline Bridge

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« on: Aug 28, 2003, 05:21:05 pm »
I really dont have a opinion to be honest, thats why i wanted to see what everyone else though. I wouldnt mind having a crazy turbo setup... while ont he other hand i love how you can get so much power out of just a basic engine.
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« Reply #1 on: Aug 29, 2003, 03:27:25 am »
What's N/A?  To me that means Non-applicable which doesn't make any sense.
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« Reply #2 on: Aug 29, 2003, 08:43:14 am »
Naturally Aspried.... meaning...  A engine without NOS or forced induction that has really high performance. "cams, head work, pistons, etc."
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« Reply #3 on: Aug 30, 2003, 02:05:00 am »
Ah, it all makes sense now...  :D

I personally prefer a Naturally aspirated engine.  I've only driven a turbo once(at least I think it was one- 1996 Ford Probe GT), and once you put the tach past 4 grand that thing took off like crazy.  I loved it.  But...  At the same time I'd rather play with cams and head work and fine-tune the engine to perfection rather than slapping some forced induction on it.  I do have ram air on my car, but that's hardly the same thing.  Besides, it's not working the way I want it right now anyway.

 
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« Reply #4 on: Aug 30, 2003, 02:25:31 am »
I've got a ram air setup i made myself. But thats not Forced Induction.

also as for my AE86 i plan on a 4AGZE engine swap. Meaning a stock supercharged 4AGE. I'm going to try to get the last version they made back in 1992. that one comes stock with 170 hp with only 8 pounds of boost. and HKS makes a pully that adds it up to 10 PSI.

If i had to pick between a supercharger and a turbo.. i'd go with superchagers. they dont ever have lag unlike turbos do.

ANd the only reason i'm going to swap in that 4AGZE is because its all stock toyota parts. and its a pretty rare, yet easy engine swap in a AE86.
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« Reply #5 on: Aug 31, 2003, 01:41:31 am »
Definatly N/A for me.... gives you more control in the corners, and that is where all the fun is ^_^
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« Reply #6 on: Sep 03, 2003, 03:36:59 pm »
That 4agze sounds like a wise choice. No turbo lag, and plent of torque. With alittle mods, should be a nice street car.  

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« Reply #7 on: Sep 09, 2003, 03:54:46 am »
for such an old and popular and long lasting motor,
i'm surprised no one's ever made a 4 valve head for the 22r/e
i decided against going turbo
hate lag like the plague, wait for it to cool down on shut off? that's insane...
so i'll probly do n2o if i'm not satisfied with cams
i went with stock metal pistons too
lce guy on the phone said you can do a 50 or 75 shot in a 22r/e
crank and rods are forged and i've yet to see anyone break em unless they didn't take care of the oil or sumthin :huh:  

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« Reply #8 on: Sep 09, 2003, 04:46:38 am »
50 to 75 shot stock? Thats pretty bad ass... but i'm not much of a nos fan... but i dont hate it either.
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« Reply #9 on: Sep 09, 2003, 06:45:00 am »
Put a small turbo in place of that huge S/C.  them are nazty things (I work on MR2's)  small enough turbo, you can crank the boost up to 14 PSI (read CT-26)and have 200 crank HP.  


The motor you mentioned came in the AE111 Corolla, nice car but you have to run 100 octane in it... and unless you want to go to the airport to fill up... I'd look into a USDM motor.

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« Reply #10 on: Sep 10, 2003, 12:00:49 am »
The 4agze was also available on the AE92 and the AW series MR2. The JDM motor works just fine on regular fuel. The reason I know this, is high octane fuel is not readily available in the Caribbean, yet these cars are plentiful down there. They are designed to run on higher octane fuel, but the ecu also compensates for lower octane fuel, since alot of their cars are exported all over the world.

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« Reply #11 on: Sep 10, 2003, 06:27:10 am »
They detune everything sent over seas.  US spec corolla GT-s (91) has 10:1 comp, JDM has 10.8:1.  Anything over 10:1 you risk detonation.  Ask me :)  I'll show you pictures.
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« Reply #12 on: Sep 10, 2003, 12:53:07 pm »
Actually not everything. The cars that go to the Caribbean sometimes have less restrictions than the JDM cars. We have tested the JDM cars against our market, and alot of the times they performed the same, but we have no speed limits on ours. There is also a big market for pre owned JDM cars there, since it is alot cheaper to buy them from there than the US.

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« Reply #13 on: Sep 12, 2003, 12:36:12 am »
I want turbo.

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« Reply #14 on: Sep 12, 2003, 12:47:46 am »
So do I
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