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Offline Atomic Punk

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« on: Sep 27, 2003, 04:42:26 am »
ok so i have seen some tires on other cars that have a very low profile and put's the wheel rims about 2" or so off the ground. i think they look pretty col but i am wondering what people know about theese type of tires and what the big differences of theese tires are versus the normal one's.
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« Reply #1 on: Sep 27, 2003, 04:49:57 am »
you get better performce due to the tires not flexing as much... but it kills your ride, you feel every bump.
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« Reply #2 on: Sep 27, 2003, 04:50:43 am »
Normally the lower the profile of a tire, the better cornering abilities it has due to its stiffer sidewalls, however they are not very responsive on the 1/4 mile for the same reason. Another side effect is its harsher ride.

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« Reply #3 on: Sep 27, 2003, 05:01:35 am »
lol, stupid ricers, they only ever want to race in a straight line, and yet they have the worst tires for it.... gogo ricers.
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« Reply #4 on: Sep 27, 2003, 12:37:37 pm »
Plus lower profile tires are performance tire so they will wear faster, and if your aliment is off they will wear very fast   under 10,00miles  BTDT

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« Reply #5 on: Sep 27, 2003, 05:31:43 pm »
i think low-pro's look good on certin cars though. They look good on Ferrari's and most other exotics... but not hondas... and i dont think they'd look that good on our celicas either.

I'm not a big fan of huge wheels... i think throwing $3,000 into wheels is a waste of money unless they are made for hella perofmance. But most people buy wheels for the looks and i hate that.
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« Reply #6 on: Sep 28, 2003, 01:54:38 pm »
Larger rims long good on most cars, as long as you can find a style of rim that fit the car/truck/SUV that you drive.
   If you are tasteful in your decision on the rim style and size it will look good. MHO!  But that will always be posser/rice runners that will out-size you becasue they think bigger is better or thier just that stupid,  most likely the later.
    And Yes $3000 is to much for rims, 1200max IMHO!
A dude that was in my class last semseter had a Grand Cherokee(White) with some 20" spoke rim Gold spoke at that.  It looked like shit.
Spoke rim on a SUV :blink:   They did not match the vehicle.

Some ppl have way to much money.
We should start a fund to raise money for restoring 3rd Gen Celicas, if these ppl have all this money then they can give ti to us.
 

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« Reply #7 on: Sep 28, 2003, 02:44:08 pm »
See that is where people fall, they think that bigger is better, but it isnt always so.  When they put on their 18s or 20s and do not upgrade their brakes, it will be harder for the car to stop in a given distance. Even if the 18" weighs the same as their 16" the rotational forces created by the larger wheels will cause more rotational power to over work their standard brakes

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« Reply #8 on: Sep 28, 2003, 03:10:08 pm »
Wagon wheels=sucks

Wadadlianu: you make a very good point that most if not all ppl forget.

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« Reply #9 on: Sep 28, 2003, 07:00:51 pm »
I've posted about this before and really haven't gotten a response. I will not go larger than 16in for a rim, but is that too big? My concern is with wheel rub in the well when driving and such. I finally got the tokico illuminas and plan on getting the GC coilovers. How low can you safely go with the gc coilovers.I will also swap out the rear springs with maybe a 1 or 1.3in. drop. I've read the suspension post on the old celica gts site and got a lot of info from there. I am seriously looking at some 16in (panasports) that will fit the celica, pretty sure they will :unsure: , but i do not want to come into any problems with wheel rubbing when hitting bad road pavements, having people in the backseat, or turning. Thanks you guys for the info about profiles of tires, I didn't know about the change in drag and turning capabilities until reading this :D  
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« Reply #10 on: Sep 28, 2003, 07:52:39 pm »
I am not too sure if they will be too big, but beware of the car s constant sagging of the rear when moving off aggresively. I would try a friend s 16" rims if possible, and pull the hand brake up and load up the rear end. That should let you know if they will touch or not

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« Reply #11 on: Sep 29, 2003, 01:17:40 pm »
I have heard that you can put 17" rim on our cars, but I like the 16" panasprot too.
The rubbing issues you are worroed about, would be related to the size of tire you would put on.  The stardand rule in plus sizing is to add 10MM  and drop your side wall heath by 10  example.  My  GT-S has 225/60/14  if I went to a 15" rim then my tire size would be  235/50/15 and on a 16" rim 245/40/16. this would keep the overall tire diameter the same, your speedo reading would still be correct also.
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I do not believe there would be rubbing problems, but you can check by measuring the inner fender space(free space): the space between the tire and the fender. Check the front with the tires straight, then turn the tires lock-to-lock measuring each time. now subbtrac how much you are going to lower the car from the free space.  If you plus size the correctly you still should the same tire diameter.
If you have the 14"x7" rims then you your 16" should be 16"x9" if you have the smaller 14"x6"/5.5" rims you should be looking at 16"x8"  
16"=wheel height and the 9"=wheel widht. This means you backspacing will be different as will your offset.
 

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« Reply #12 on: Sep 29, 2003, 01:54:16 pm »
Yeah if you could keep the overall diameter of the tire the same or approximately the same as OEM you wouldnt have a problem.  I guess I misunderstood. Guess I just thought you were going bigger in overall diameter

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« Reply #13 on: Sep 30, 2003, 11:14:50 pm »
i got the 13 in rims cause i got a gt, but i DO want to keep the diameter the same. I believe by getting the gc coilovers and some cutom rear springs, i can fill up that wheel well space. My concern was because my brother had a 66 mustang and he lowered the car and got some different rims, and when he hit a bump on the freeway, the suspension travel was such that tire would rub the fender well. At the time, i found out he had the springs cut only, not a professional lower. These are the specs for the tire i'm looking at: 205/40ZR16  836W    RF  the tire
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« Reply #14 on: Sep 30, 2003, 11:58:48 pm »
Cool tire, but what/where is the rim that your going to use?