Author Topic: Wheel Fitment (Read 32086 times)

ToyotaRacingTeam · « **Reply #15 on:** Aug 23, 2004, 06:59:06 pm »

yep, my friend has em on her civic EX (1999), they work like a charm too

OldMage · « **Reply #16 on:** Aug 24, 2004, 12:59:16 am »

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Yes, you can run Z wheels on our cars.. I think the GTS wheels would look awsome on an old Z car..
Although the center bore might be different, you'd have to check on that.

Z-cars run a bigger center-bore than Celicas. Don't know what the Datsun center-bore is tho.

I had hub-centric rings made up. I know someone posted a site that has plastic centering rings. You just specify what brand of wheels & what car you have, they make 'em. No reason plastic wouldn't be fine. Mine were cut from aluminum alloy stock.

I don't think the early Z-cars really have that many more wheel options than we do. Similar offset requirements, same bolt pattern...

Teranfirbt · « **Reply #17 on:** Aug 24, 2004, 01:01:36 am »

You need to pay more attention

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The center bore on the Z's is 66.1mm

OldMage · « **Reply #18 on:** Aug 24, 2004, 03:00:28 am »

What? Read the whole thread before replying to anything? Nah, not gonna happen.

Hey, at least I knew the Datsun center-bore was bigger! I'd heard one of the Aussie OCC'ers say he bought Supra rims from a "Datto" owner, but they'd bored the centers out on 2 of them.

Teranfirbt · « **Reply #19 on:** Aug 24, 2004, 03:03:20 am »

It's 3 posts above yours! lol..

Justin Martin · « **Reply #20 on:** Aug 24, 2004, 03:34:25 am »

Hehe...

Having the same wheel specs as the Z's won't help too much, though. I used to be a big fan of the 240Z's, wanted one to restore, till they became classics and thus expensive. I'd still like one. Anyway, I don't remember there being a huge selection of wheels for the Z's. I've seen a fair number of Z's with Panasports, and alot of Z's have American Racing wheels that were common dealer options back in the '70s. (240Z's came with ugly wheel covers)

With Panasports: http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/626930
With the American Racing Wheels: http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/650770

Personally, while I like both on a Z, I don't think i'd like either on a Celica. I've seen other aftermarket wheels on Z's, but those are the only one's i've seen alot of. Still, the Z community is probably a good place to look for used wheels.

Our wheel size was also used on the '82-'92 Lotus Excel. Lotus was dipping heavy into the Toyota parts bin at that time, and giving Toyota engineering help in return. I've heard that they did some suspension tuning on the Mk2 Supra, and it's rumored they did ALOT of the development of the Mk1 MR2. Anyway, the Excel used a W58, the brakes and some other bits from the Celica GTS and Supra.

I've seen a few Excel's with wheels similar to the ones that 85BlackGT has on his Celica, but Lotus only built about 1300 Excels, so obviously, those wheels would be extremely rare and expensive, assuming they are a factory option and not aftermarket.

Teranfirbt · « **Reply #21 on:** Aug 24, 2004, 03:39:03 am »

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and it's rumored they did ALOT of the development of the Mk1 MR2.

The mk1 MR2 WAS basically a lotus design, until they scrapped it and toyota took it..

Sigma Projects · « **Reply #22 on:** Jan 03, 2008, 08:49:46 pm »

this should be a sticky in the suspension section.

zipty842 · « **Reply #23 on:** Jan 03, 2008, 08:53:56 pm »

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and it's rumored they did ALOT of the development of the Mk1 MR2.
The mk1 MR2 WAS basically a lotus design, until they scrapped it and toyota took it..

wrong.

lotus helped with the initial suspension setup, but most of the final work was courtesy of Dan Gurney.

the lotus design that corresponded with the mr2 basically became the Elan, which used an Isuzu engine.

however, the Excel did use alot of Toyota parts (transmission, our beloved semi trailing arm suspension, wheels, etc.)

Red85Celica · « **Reply #24 on:** Jan 04, 2008, 02:13:14 am »

looks like Mage is arguing with himself in the first couple post's

OldMage · « **Reply #25 on:** Jan 04, 2008, 08:19:47 am »

Not really sure I want to continue the off-topic "necro" of this thread... But I can't figure out where I'm "arguing w/ myself". Yeah, I didn't go back & edit things to condense the info or remove references from other threads/conversations...

I don't think any of the facts (math) really contradicts itself.

Yeah, wheel stuff comes up a LOT. I guess I could take editing/addition suggestions & make this a sticky. We lost FAQs, so I guess "Suspension & Brakes" makes the most sense.

a2ndopinion · « **Reply #26 on:** Jan 04, 2008, 08:24:35 am »

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Not really sure I want to continue the off-topic "necro" of this thread... But I can't figure out where I'm "arguing w/ myself". Yeah, I didn't go back & edit things to condense the info or remove references from other threads/conversations...

I don't think any of the facts (math) really contradicts itself.

Yeah, wheel stuff comes up a LOT. I guess I could take editing/addition suggestions & make this a sticky. We lost FAQs, so I guess "Suspension & Brakes" makes the most sense.

Please do edit for a sticky! You put that much effort into it, might as well keep it handy, as it does come up (too) often.

83GTCoupe · « **Reply #27 on:** Jan 04, 2008, 08:28:24 am »

and I remember this thread.

OldMage · « **Reply #28 on:** Jan 04, 2008, 08:36:28 am »

Well, anybody got corrections/additions? Or do I just chop it all together into one HUGE post?

What needs to be here? The facts & figures on stock fitment & comparison to aftermarket? No matter how much you break it down & make it req'd reading, there are still plenty of folks that will insist on getting the exact same offset even tho they're changing from factory 14"x5.5" rims

a2ndopinion · « **Reply #29 on:** Jan 04, 2008, 08:56:43 am »

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Well, anybody got corrections/additions? Or do I just chop it all together into one HUGE post?

What needs to be here? The facts & figures on stock fitment & comparison to aftermarket? No matter how much you break it down & make it req'd reading, there are still plenty of folks that will insist on getting the exact same offset even tho they're changing from factory 14"x5.5" rims

Explain the factory info (use my pic if you'd like), and chop the rest of what you explained into one huge post about offset vs backspace and width, with the pictures you have, and if they can't figure it out, they can ask specific questions or just get screwed with poor fitting wheels. We can't hold their hand and take them to buy wheels.

P.S. We had to go to Weslie Ford today and thought about stopping by, but had to go on to The Dalles, so had to hustle.