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Re: Ford 8.8 goodness started!
« Reply #15 on: Feb 02, 2016, 11:10:15 pm »
It makes me happy to see that you did this swap. A little jealous too, I'm afraid to run slicks with my 7.5 rear but the 8.8 I would do it for sure! I guess that would be a good project once I get settled in PA and start making passes at the local strip.
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« Reply #16 on: Feb 02, 2016, 11:27:20 pm »
Hey a whole lotta thanks goes to you for the suggestion! I had never heard of a ford 8.8 until I read that thread you made. Two years ago, if someone had suggested I put an axle from a ford exploder into anything I would've punched em in mouth. Now, I believe in the fordyota Union.
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« Reply #17 on: Feb 03, 2016, 04:41:49 am »
Sick! I'll be doing the same but probably making my own brackets, and panhard, and spring perches. and shock mounts, and erryythang. Good work nonetheless!!!! Looks great and I bet ok nce it's all sorted it'll handle a lot more abuse.
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« Reply #18 on: Feb 03, 2016, 05:57:36 am »
Well, once I get the brakes, driveshaft, and suspension tried and true the next post here will be a smokin' ass TWO WHEELED burnout.
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« Reply #19 on: Feb 04, 2016, 01:10:53 am »
Good job! Looks quite excellent, and glad you finally got it all finished

It's vitally important to measure your pinion angle using a magnetic angle finder. I bought mine for 12$ at Home Depot.

This is the one that I ended up getting, reads down to .1 of a degree and seems to be accurate.  It's helped with several other projects since, well worth the $30 I spent
http://www.harborfreight.com/digital-angle-gauge-95998.html
Before I got that though, I was matching bracket angles side to side with a piece of cardboard and a weighted string ;)


Sick! I'll be doing the same but probably making my own brackets, and panhard, and spring perches. and shock mounts, and erryythang.

Xcessive could help with some of that if you don't want to spend a bunch of time making new brackets
http://xcessivemanufacturing.com/index.php/toyota/corolla/aexx/chassis-and-suspension/toyota-exx-t-exx-2-6-abk.html
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« Reply #20 on: Feb 04, 2016, 02:56:36 am »
Sweet. That makes it that much easier. I love xcessive sometimes. Other times it just makes me want a cressida more.
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« Reply #21 on: Feb 06, 2016, 06:17:45 am »
Does anyone, by random chance, happen to know if the pan hard bar is a solid bar or hollow?
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« Reply #22 on: Feb 06, 2016, 08:47:24 pm »
I do doubt anyone has hacked one of these or any of these suspension pieces up to find out. Well, can't be a pioneer unless you're first right?
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« Reply #23 on: Feb 06, 2016, 11:36:34 pm »
I'm fairly sure it's solid, if not I think the one on the race car would have rusted through.
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Re: Ford 8.8 goodness started!
« Reply #24 on: Feb 08, 2016, 03:55:25 pm »
Actually I'm pretty sure it's hollow, when I bought my axle out of the jy  I had them just cut all the bars and links, and they were all hollow.
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« Reply #25 on: Feb 14, 2016, 05:27:42 pm »
Adding to the knowledge for this swap. The breather tube from the ford 8.8 occupies exactly where the Toyota pan hard and spring perch are located when transferred over and welded. The hole has to be welded up. And you still need a breather! If your axle can't breathe when the oil expands and contracts, you'll blow seals out. To remedy this you will need a 25/64ths or a 10mm high speed steel drill bit. 25/64ths is 89.7% accurate for the thread tap size. While a 10mm drill bit is 90.3% accurate. Now, when I use the term "accurate" I don't mean "correct". The difference here is basically how close that drill bit size is to the actually 7/16" hole. So a 100% accurate drill bit would be the full 7/16" and therefore would not have any threads on it. Obviously we need a hole that is ever so slightly smaller than the threads so the tap will form the threads out to 7/16". The breather tube is a 7/16-20 thread diameter and pitch (20 threads is fine thread) so a tap of that size works. You will also need a way of preventing too many metal shavings from falling into the axle. I picked the end of the passenger side for the breather since it allowed the most room for a drill, allowed room for the breather, and made it easy to stuff a rag into the axle tube and catch shavings. I recommend a narrow vacuum hose to suck out remaining shavings located inside the axle tube. Once drilled and tapped, make sure you run a rubber hose over the breather fitting and connect it up high on the chassis with ample slack for suspension movement (not that my Celica has much of that) any questions???

Oh, and yes, the easy answer is just drill a hole large enough to stuff the breather tube into and Weld it on permanently. But where's the fun in that?
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« Reply #26 on: Mar 04, 2016, 04:15:50 am »
Adding more info: the panhard bar drags abit on the ford 8.8's diff cover. You can remedy this a few different ways. The way I'm taking is grinding the panhard bar down until I've radiused the bulge on the diff cover. Once ground down (grind it down further than needed) you can lay a strip of metal in the now opened hole and weld it shut and then grind it smooth again. This *shouldn't* compromise the integrity of the bar, after all, it is no load bearing. It simply places the axle within a certain arc as it moves up and down.




Another option is making a bar that has the old panhard ends welded on the end. You would make this bar have a slight arc to it to accommodate the diff cover bulge. Don't worry, there's room between the gas tank and the panhard mount.

Of course you could do a watts link too. Costs 750$ and bolts right on. I'll pass.
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« Reply #27 on: Mar 22, 2016, 08:27:57 pm »
Update: tried to backyard redneck style my driveshaft to adapt it. Didn't work. Lesson learned- have someone make you a drive shaft!

I tried using the Toyota p/u 2wd shaft and just welding on a weld yoke I bought from spicer, that way it would mate to the spicer 1330 u joint I bought, that in turn mates to the ford pinion flange. Sounds great right? I was only into it 40$, but when I took it in to the machinist for a balance he chuckled and shook his head saying "nope" turns out the yota shaft being 2.9" and that it necks down to 2.5" isn't enough for that length (45.5" from center joint to center joint) and wouldn't be balanced or safe! needs to be a 3" tube all the way down. So six states quoted me a "couple hundred" to make me a new one if I bring them the old shaft.
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« Reply #28 on: Mar 25, 2016, 11:14:34 pm »
Another update/DIY for this project. Running the brake lines:
Since this axle is shortened and is goin from standard American brake sizes to Japanese metric brake line sizes, you'll have to run new lines. The cheap AND simple way? Buy straight 3/8-24 lines. One at 36" one at 24". Then buy the adapter that takes 3/8" flared fittings to the metric m10. The apsaras part number (posted earlier) the adapter goes into the factory Celica distribution block, then you'll need to route your lines. The easy way to do this is to use 2 coat hangers. Unbend them straight, then cut them to be the same length as your new straight brake lines, 36" and 24". Now you can run them under the car and start bending them around until you get a desired, SIMPLE shape. Now take these bent coat hangers and use them as a template to bend your new brake lines. I was doing two bends, and then checking it under the car, then two more and so forth until you get it completely bent like it needs to be.
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« Reply #29 on: Mar 25, 2016, 11:25:14 pm »
Nah, the cheap way is to buy a roll of line, the flaring tool, and the fittings. Granted, it's a bit more expensive the first time, but you'll have the tools for the next time. Also, if you have problems with rusting brake lines (calcium chloride on the roads), buy the Nickel-Copper lines, they're easier to bend and extremely resistant to corrosion.

For making the lines, whenever possible I prefer to drop the old brake line, bend the new one to match, and then install it. I did that once on a Taurus, the inspection mechanic asked if I'd bought the pre-bent lines :)
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