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Re: I Bought Nashville Tony's GTS - Now wont Start lol
« Reply #15 on: Jul 05, 2017, 01:24:04 pm »
Annnnnnd She runs!  :yes:

So the Megasquirt install was a success! I'm going to start a thread with all the files and info as I've come to find out there are no good Tune files available.

So my 1st issue ( probably the only issue i had from the start, but oh well! ONWARD) the pump was seized and rusted. The Front lines of China Beach was found on the top of my Tank WTF? But all is cleaned up and well!

So now getting fuel - Back to tunerstudio and try to start - 1st my base timing was set to 10 BTDC, big no no as it would never fire so back to 5 BTDC. Also in TunerStudio the Trigger offset is 2.5 and no 5 as I thought. And for Fuel I had to change Alternating to Simultaneously as I'm firing only one batch of 4.

As you can see all those changes get's me the steady square wave trigger, and then she fires up! Video to follow. Another Surprise, I may have an LSD already Installed !


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Re: I Bought Nashville Tony's GTS - Now wont Start lol
« Reply #16 on: Jul 05, 2017, 02:57:44 pm »
damn, looks like the tank was buried under construction. Glad you got MS going, should be a great project.
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Re: I Bought Nashville Tony's GTS - Now wont Start lol
« Reply #17 on: Jul 06, 2017, 12:04:20 pm »
I do need a few suggestions...

What is a good aluminum Radiator to get as I want to ditch the clutch fan for an electric 2 speed.

Aso I have that Gray wire that came from the old igniter and I want to know how can I get the Dash RPM Tach to work again? Was it a 12v signal or a conditioned 5v signal.

BTW - that is the only gauge in the dash not working. But Megasquirt is outputting RPM in Tunerstudio. I also have a RPM signal I can send to the Tach from MS. Just need to know what it is.

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Re: I Bought Nashville Tony's GTS - Now wont Start lol
« Reply #18 on: Jul 06, 2017, 12:16:53 pm »
the factory gauge will run from a 12volt signal off the negitive of the coil. 12v signal from megasquirt should work as well.
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Re: I Bought Nashville Tony's GTS - Now wont Start lol
« Reply #19 on: Jul 06, 2017, 02:57:16 pm »
I believe first gen MX-5 and 240SX radiators are good fits for the 22RE.
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Re: I Bought Nashville Tony's GTS - Now wont Start lol
« Reply #20 on: Jul 06, 2017, 06:44:49 pm »
What is a good aluminum Radiator to get as I want to ditch the clutch fan for an electric 2 speed.

Miata radiator: http://www.celica-gts.com/forums/index.php?topic=30239.msg430894#msg430894

On my BEAMS swap, I put the fan temp switch in the lower radiator hose. It works fine and fans only come on when the radiator doesn't have enough airflow to cool the fluid

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latest project: high & low speed dual electric fans
I got the idea to use a BMW dual temp switch from this thread: http://www.nastyz28.com/forum/showthread.php?t=200028 and chose the 195*/210* switch - I'll decide over the next few days if this was the right switch to use.

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BMW 80 / 88* C (180/195*F) dual temp switch Part # 61318361787
BMW 91 / 99* C (195/210*F) dual temp switch Part # 61311378073

With that switch, I built a triple relay system to control the fans. When the low temp switch is closed the fans run in series, keeping them at a lower speed.  When the high temp switch trips both fans run in parallel with their own power & ground.  I'm hoping for increased efficiency with both fans running during low speed operation since air will be getting pulled through the entire length of the radiator (less cycling to high speed) + it won't have the "short circuit loop" if only 1 fan was running where air gets drawn in from the back-side of the non-active fan, across (not through) the radiator and back through the single active fan - if that makes sense.  For now I'm using a 50A Maxi blade fuse. Low speed operation draws about 5.5A with an initial spike of right around 30A (the spike only lasts a split second).  On high speed the fans draw 17 & 11 amps respectively with a nice heavy initial spike of nearly 90A.

For the diode in the diagram above I used a 50V 3A epoxy rectifier diode from Radioshack (p/n 276-1143)

I was lucky enough to find a thermostat housing with a sensor bung cast into it.  To mount the BMW switch I tapped out the existing hole to 3/8"x18 NPT (originally 16mm x 1.5 IIRC).  I tapped a brass adapter to 14mm x 1.5 to accept the sensor & threw it all together.  The only thing I don't like about this setup is that there might be an air bubble below the sensor tip since it doesn't extend into the coolant.  Oh yeah, I didn't want to spend $20 for the all the pieces to put the BMW connector together so I took male blade connectors and pushed the part the the wire would normally go in onto the sensor posts and then lightly soldered.

Switched ignition voltage for the relay coils comes from the + post on the ignition coil - it's powered directly from IG2 relay, so nothing is getting taxed.  In the future I may move the relay power wire to the Fuel Cut Relay (fuel pump power) so the fans only run when the engine is running - that way the fans won't drain the battery if I stop the engine but leave the ignition on.  I couldn't find any other circuits in the car that only get power with the engine running.  I haven't run the wire into the cabin for the high speed over-ride switch yet.

This is how I mounted the fans onto the radiator, the holes on the radiator sides were already there.   I drilled the shroud for the studs by setting the fans on the radiator, putting the drill bit through both holes on the piece (works as a guide) and then just punching a hole through the plastic.  It's double nutted so the side rail doesn't get deformed or tweaked when the fan is tightened down.

the bottom had to be trimmed a little bit to get the fan up against the radiator.  Any significant gap between the fans & the radiator will reduce how much air actually gets drawn through the radiator + it's a little tight by the power steering pump, so extra clearance is welcome.

IIRC the dual fan units come from 95-2000 Ford Contours and Mercury Mystiques with the V6.  If you plan to get one at a junkyard, they are a pain to pull out, but are a near perfect fit for the radiator.  All mounted up & wired. 

There's just enough room between the p/s pump and the fan to slide the belt past, so it's close but I'm not afraid of it ever hitting

Update on the fan install:
The "BMW 91 / 99* C (195/210*F) dual temp switch Part # 61311378073" switch let the engine get hot to where it the gauge would climb up to 3/4 hot before the fans kicked on.  Once the fans came on the temp gauge would drop back down to normal.  So I switched to the "BMW 80 / 88* C (180/195*F) dual temp switch Part # 61318361787" fan switch and the gauge stays in the middle no matter what.  With my temperature gun I can watch the t-stat open at 180 degrees and the fans kick on about 5-10 degrees later.
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Re: I Bought Nashville Tony's GTS - Now wont Start lol
« Reply #21 on: Jul 06, 2017, 06:48:43 pm »
If you're interested, I still have a thermostat/outlet housing with a bung in it for the fan temp switch
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Re: I Bought Nashville Tony's GTS - Now wont Start lol
« Reply #22 on: Jul 06, 2017, 08:15:25 pm »
Cool, and thanks all for the much needed info.

I'm most likely will get a all aluminum one and I'm looking at a Volvo 960 Fan with their OEM 2 speed relay. Remember I can control the fan via Megasquirt, but thanks for the offer anyway.

This is a photo of one on my 7mgte Supra Turbo Radiator.

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Re: I Bought Nashville Tony's GTS - Now wont Start lol
« Reply #23 on: Jul 11, 2017, 01:11:38 pm »
And here is a quick run down - as stated Rear brakes will not bleed, Yellow wire off Coil ground makes RPM Tach way off and I have to dial in the IAC later today and then I'll post a start and sound video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3axC2V5bjEA

More to come!

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Re: I Bought Nashville Tony's GTS - Now wont Start lol
« Reply #24 on: Jul 11, 2017, 11:44:11 pm »
The rear brakes on my 87 Supra would not bleed replaced the hose I found that it was plugged. I replaced all brake hoses on the 85 Celica a few years back these cars are 32 years old. There is a lot depend on your bakes. I call it my wife's ass and some times mine.

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Re: I Bought Nashville Tony's GTS - Now wont Start lol
« Reply #25 on: Jul 12, 2017, 04:28:12 pm »
ok new developments - bad tps?

testing
VTA - E2   200-800 ohms (with in spec)

Mine is over 1000 and rises with blips of the throttle - any ideas?

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Re: I Bought Nashville Tony's GTS - Now wont Start lol
« Reply #26 on: Jul 12, 2017, 09:10:35 pm »
Sounds like a bad TPS to me.
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Re: I Bought Nashville Tony's GTS - Now wont Start lol
« Reply #27 on: Jul 13, 2017, 12:32:58 pm »
"So, Peter, what's happening? Aahh, now, are you going to go ahead and have those TPS reports for us this afternoon?"

No Lumbergh, we will not have new TPS until Friday!

So the TPS now ohms out, it was sticky and dirty. I'm still going to replace it as it is a vital component to the MS install.

I plan to post a video today. I'm still dialing in the IAC valve. Still at 3500 rpm's for idle lol!

But my troubles from yesterday was definitely the TPS sticking.

This car is a far cry from my Supra, that was a Carson City,  NV car it's whole life and garaged. So I'm learning a lot about old neglected parts, what has survived and what hasn't - and improve it every step of the way.

So the list is now shorter than before,  new wheels and tires by this weekend and rear brakes. Oh and the rear bumper is off as 8 of the bottom trip metal strip all snapped off.

Oh and the before and after of the Italian exhaust!

BRB ;-)

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Re: I Bought Nashville Tony's GTS - Now wont Start lol
« Reply #28 on: Jul 18, 2017, 04:31:49 pm »
1st Drive -

https://youtu.be/j2_aedpwkVk

After that drive everything died!

Fusible Link? I wiggled it and it came back to life. OH and it was packed with dirt and sand!

Good ways to update the fusible link? as mine is old and needs to be redone.

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Re: I Bought Nashville Tony's GTS - Now wont Start lol
« Reply #29 on: Jul 21, 2017, 12:00:30 pm »
New wheels - 15x7 4"BS (0 offset)
225/60/15

In need of fixing my Fusible links, they are buggy after a drive in that i loose all power unless i wiggle them.