Well, it finally happened

[danf]

An autonomous car hit and killed someone. Saw it on a tech feed too.

[Sigma Projects]

I guess the driver was asleep at the wheel then?

[Dr.Jun.Manabe]

And once again, it's the human at fault for not following the law. Sucks what happened, but there's signs and crosswalks for a reason. Same could have happened if it was a human actually driving. 

[Sigma Projects]

And once again, it's the human at fault for not following the law. Sucks what happened, but there's signs and crosswalks for a reason. Same could have happened if it was a human actually driving. 

True. Also the driver said that she basically came out of no where. Which can be his own way of trying to save himself but still a possibility.

[silverliftback]

Clearly the solution is to develop autonomous walking technology that will not interfere with autonomous driving technology.

[sirdan]

IF I jumped infront of a car that physically did not have enough time to stop whos fault is it 

[Sigma Projects]

IF I jumped infront of a car that physically did not have enough time to stop whos fault is it 

In the US? Depends how good your lawyer is.

[swan song]

Shouldn’t be in the road unless the law says you can be. The crosswalks save your ass, but take a step off the curb and you’re playing with your own life. This includes getting into a parked roadside car. Of course each state and city differ. In fact, if you were struck in a crosswalk while durnk walking, and a camera caught it. It would certainly get thrown out. I wonder how responsible the city would be if you were struck while in the crosswalk, but some other type of sign obstructed the drivers view, preventing them from seeing far enough ahead.

[danf]

Surely that vehicle was equipped with cameras. I'm sure there'll be more details later.

[ozzie]

I really hope the video will be made public, instead of being buried. Of course, we can get a pretty good idea of what happened just by what Uber does with the evidence.

[danf]

Wow, they released a video.

The video does show someone about to be hit so use discretion...

Two things of note, one was the safety driver was fiddling with his phone while the car was driving, second is that the sensors in the car should've been able to see that and the car made no effort to even slow down. People are saying the pedestrian jumped out, but they were walking across the street with a bike. The car should've seen that! I wonder if a sensor failed. The sensors are supposed to be able to see further than a human and shouldn't be constrained by lighting conditions that a human eye would.

Not good...

[swan song]

I’ve been saying it for years. Technology hasn’t caught up to what we know we can do with it. My 6mo old surface laptop crashes hard. All the time. No reason. Multiple restarts. Incomplete updates. Freezing.
My Apple TV flips the eff out all the time. Every iPhone and iPad update gets worse. Nothing can keep pace with my typing. Tap on a screen. Nothing happens. Tap several times. Nothing happens. Tap again. It magically works.

And this is a very, very short list of irritating failures on the computer engineers and programmers. It’s unreal. It’s enough to make Me want to go live in a cabin in the woods. If I put out a product, it wouldn’t come to light until it was perfect. And mass apologies and reparations would Be made.

This situation highlights the need to stop innovating, and start focusing on consistency. But you see, consistency isn’t the $ driver. Innovation is. Therefore, every keyboard ninja with a degree thinks of the next bright idea and pitches it to get there fistful.

Ian: “Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.“ 

Everyone part of the Manhattan project regretted their course in life.

[Sigma Projects]

Yea that for sure shows that the "driver" was full of crap when they said she jumped out of no where.

[danf]

Yea that for sure shows that the "driver" was full of crap when they said she jumped out of no where.

No kidding. And that camera's night performance is awful. Everything looks pitch black outside of the headlights, but a human (if the dumbass was paying attention) would've seen her before she was in the headlights, almost guaranteed.

I’ve been saying it for years. Technology hasn’t caught up to what we know we can do with it. My 6mo old surface laptop crashes hard. All the time. No reason. Multiple restarts. Incomplete updates. Freezing.

Well, at least the car autonomous system hopefully was embedded software and not a Windows-10-I'm-going-to-restart-now-even-if-car-is-moving. I've said this before to someone else, I don't trust programmers where human life is at stake. Stupid mistakes are always made causing hard to find bugs and in certain cases it kills people. Microsoft is a good example of this - they can't even keep people's computers running, an update can bring your computer to its knees. One of the comments I read elsewhere on this was that 20,000 people will die while the "programmers figure this out and make it safer." Um, excuse me?

[Sigma Projects]

No kidding. And that camera's night performance is awful. Everything looks pitch black outside of the headlights, but a human (if the dumbass was paying attention) would've seen her before she was in the headlights, almost guaranteed.

Exactly! And I bet Uber adjusted it further to make it look worse. I checked out how the XC90 headlights perform and they're really good.

Well, at least the car autonomous system hopefully was embedded software and not a Windows-10-I'm-going-to-restart-now-even-if-car-is-moving. I've said this before to someone else, I don't trust programmers where human life is at stake. Stupid mistakes are always made causing hard to find bugs and in certain cases it kills people. Microsoft is a good example of this - they can't even keep people's computers running, an update can bring your computer to its knees. One of the comments I read elsewhere on this was that 20,000 people will die while the "programmers figure this out and make it safer." Um, excuse me?

I also agree that even with automation that there needs to be someone else to have as a safety double check. I had short argument with a friend since I said autonomous cars need a driver to keep everything accountable and he said "then it's not autonomous" or rather it's pointless. But even passenger planes with advance auto pilot systems still have a highly skilled pilot making sure nothing goes wrong.