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Offline celica842

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I'm Back!!
« on: Apr 18, 2019, 03:08:42 am »
hey guys
i'm back the celica has been down since 2012 but i got another motor fixing to go to the machine shop and while its there replace EVERYTHING from brakes to every rubber hose while i wait..

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« Reply #1 on: Apr 18, 2019, 04:03:05 am »
I see you have the ultra rare double window 22re there, most 22r/re's are of the non windowed or single windowed variety. Good luck with the build!
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« Reply #2 on: Apr 18, 2019, 04:29:37 pm »
Welcome back!! Can't wait to see you breathe some life back into your dragon. :)
'84 Celica GT - Phase 2 In Progress! (159k); W58 5-speed swap, Koni x Swift x T3 suspension, 22R-E delete, TRD 2-way LSD, Konig Rewind 15x7 +0mm, zenki taillights, '98 Camry cassette player for maximum a e s t h e t i c

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« Reply #3 on: Apr 19, 2019, 04:32:25 pm »
I see you have the ultra rare double window 22re there, most 22r/re's are of the non windowed or single windowed variety. Good luck with the build!

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SELECT celica FROM toyota WHERE year<=1985;

1985 GT-S
-Rebuilt engine: bored .020 over, oversize valves, new cam
-Thorley header w/heated O2 sensor at collector & all new exhaust
-Impact6 strut bar
-3.9LSD rearend, which is now slipping
-Lots of bodywork and new paint!
-New cd player to cover up all those squeaks and rattles
-JK short-throw shifter


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« Reply #4 on: Dec 26, 2019, 10:31:27 pm »
Well I'm whole lot closer now. Have to adjust the mout holes. Then work on getting the transmission back in there.

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« Reply #5 on: Dec 27, 2019, 07:03:42 am »
Amazing build man! Can’t wait to see more of it!

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« Reply #6 on: Dec 28, 2019, 03:45:13 pm »
Has anyone had luck with replacing the gas shock on the motor? Or rigging a replacement? I have searched everywhere. I know its purpose but not its name.

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« Reply #7 on: Dec 28, 2019, 04:48:17 pm »
They don't make them any more... Toyota calls it an "Engine Mounting Absorber" PN 12308-35030 but they haven't made new ones in years...

I am not aware of any aftermarket solutions either, if you find something in the aftermarket let me know, I could use one or two myself.  :heh:
SELECT celica FROM toyota WHERE year<=1985;

1985 GT-S
-Rebuilt engine: bored .020 over, oversize valves, new cam
-Thorley header w/heated O2 sensor at collector & all new exhaust
-Impact6 strut bar
-3.9LSD rearend, which is now slipping
-Lots of bodywork and new paint!
-New cd player to cover up all those squeaks and rattles
-JK short-throw shifter


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« Reply #8 on: Dec 28, 2019, 08:49:59 pm »
There's probably some kind of industrial damper that could be used in its place  :unsure:
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« Reply #9 on: Dec 28, 2019, 11:17:32 pm »
There's probably some kind of industrial damper that could be used in its place  :unsure:

Either you could replace the damper its in place next to the motor mount with some other generic engine torque damper, or - I just realized - you could try to retrofit something meant for the S13. This product has brackets to mount the damper between the shock tower and engine block. And we know the S13 shock tower bracket can be made to fit with a little Hole EnlargingTM.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/202448388022

EDIT: Nevermind, the damper won't really reach from the shock tower to the block (narrow SOHC head) as well as the fact that you don't really have any good mounting points on the motor, except for the valve cover, which is definitely not a recommended spot. Honestly you'd probably be better off with one rubber engine mount on the passenger side of the car, and replacing the driver's side mount with a polyurethane mount to soak up any engine movement. Unfortunately the pics got nuked in that writeup.
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'84 Celica GT - Phase 2 In Progress! (159k); W58 5-speed swap, Koni x Swift x T3 suspension, 22R-E delete, TRD 2-way LSD, Konig Rewind 15x7 +0mm, zenki taillights, '98 Camry cassette player for maximum a e s t h e t i c

'91 Miata - Daily/Track (235k); the driver's perfect roadster; BP-5A 1.8L swap, NB Koni x Ground Control coilovers, GWR endlinks, FM sway bars, HD Deuce rollbar


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« Reply #10 on: Jan 17, 2020, 11:49:50 pm »
Ok this is my fist attempt to solve this dampner. I wanted something mechanical as the gas strut would surely leak again.  Haven't installed it yet but thus far I see no issues. Its a half inch steel rod threaded on both sides and two springs and a spacer the mounts with out the rubber bushing fit over the rod didn't have to drill anything not sure what the springs came off of as they were laying around at work. As my old one was shot I am guessing on how much pressure it needs but this set up it take roughly 20lbs to compress. The old gas strut only had an inch of travel.. I have more travel in this but it's threaded a little ways for adjustment and I like the fact that I can always change springs or add more or less. Ill post a pic of it installed tomorrow.

Edit it has come to my attention I'm backwards going to try and get this to go the other way expand rather than compress..
« Last Edit: Jan 18, 2020, 03:16:47 am by celica842 »

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« Reply #11 on: Jan 18, 2020, 06:12:11 am »
You're kinda going about this wrong. The rubber engine mounts are already the springs. You want some form of shock to dampen their bouncing.
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« Reply #12 on: Mar 12, 2020, 01:59:53 am »
Ok after many a moon and working 70+ hours at work a week the past 3months. I have the great news of start up this evening!!! With that said I have a couple of questions, when. I jumped the connector to set the timing per manual set it to 5 degrees.. Turned engine off and unplugged jumper wire.. Started it back up and timing did not change at idle.. Should it? My idle is around 1k like hovering slighly up and below that. When I try to "goose" it she stumbles and pops and wants to die.. Checked for vaccum leaks none found. Did have to screw the idle adjustment screw all the in which i think I must have a vacuum leak somewhere but shouldn't the timing change with it unjumped or this might be vacuum leak causing it?

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« Reply #13 on: Mar 14, 2020, 11:32:16 pm »
ok she Alive!!! kinda figured out the why she is running like crap above idle..pluged jumper in the dia connector reset timing to 8ish little below.. unpluged jumper wire.. she idles at 850ish no misses no problems if you slowly rev it up to 2100rpm she doesn't like that at all.. had the timing light on the crank and idle and all the way up to full throttle and my timing marks are still where i put them at 8ish.. i'm thinking its the ignitor.. but took this one to oreillys and autozone and they cant even test it. and cant get ahold of a new one. so now i don't even know what to do.. try and get ahold of a used one but i feel thats a gamble on A. that one works and B may not be the issue.. but she starts and drives now kinda..pics to come soon

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« Reply #14 on: Mar 15, 2020, 09:07:54 pm »
Ok tried the gm module conversion and being my distributor isn't vacuum advance.. That was a no go looked neat but she didn't even start.. Found a bunch of part numbers for the module I need but no one can seem to order it.. Amazon is out of stock haven't had luck on eBay. So what to do now I am trying to wire the old one back in but the rain has told me other wise. Kinda wondering what my options are.. Would a msd solve it how would it communicate to the toyota ecm? Would it have to control the injectors too.. Totally clueless as to my next step so she sits..

 

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