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Offline PreciousBodilyFluids

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« on: Dec 07, 2003, 12:13:38 am »
I getting very annoyed looking at the (lack of) wheel choices for this car. Couldn't we just swap a 5 lug assembly from some other car? Anyone ever looked into or tried this? It seems like all that would be needed is a car with the same wheel bearing size on the front, I guess the rear would require new axles. Or could a new hub be welded on?

 
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« Reply #1 on: Dec 07, 2003, 06:56:28 am »
cant you get wheel spacers that convert 4 bolt into 5?? or is that out of the question
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« Reply #2 on: Dec 07, 2003, 08:36:28 am »
that is probably a possibility.
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« Reply #3 on: Dec 07, 2003, 11:47:19 pm »
Well, if you REALLY do want to do a 5 lug conversion, I guess the wheel spacers probably are the way to go although I don't know much about that.  But I know that if you are resourceful enough, you can find rims.  Don't rims from 240's have the same lug pattern as us?


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« Reply #4 on: Dec 08, 2003, 02:02:50 am »
I've looked for 240z rims and really come up with nothing. It really sucks. I did however find billet wheel spacers on E-bay that not only bring the backspace out to a more common size, they also change the lun pattern. I would buy them but I kind of like my supra wheels. They look good on the car, it's just that they're kind of small. I think the only wheels I'd switch to are a set of black reverse mesh ones in like 16"  Here's the link to the wheel spacers    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...&category=42614


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« Reply #5 on: Dec 08, 2003, 03:56:25 am »
I want mesh.   <_<  


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« Reply #6 on: Dec 08, 2003, 04:01:15 am »
Well, we all know where to get them, they're just too much money.


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« Reply #7 on: Dec 08, 2003, 04:41:31 am »
If you old enough you can remember that the mustangs had four lugs and many if not all the rim for them will fit our cars, if fact many ford cars had four lug way back in the 80s, plus any rim for the Z&ZX cars will fit ours. When I was down south I saw a few old Zs with Celica GT-S/Supra wheels.

      Also wheel spacers are nice, but they are for the look not proformance. Wheel spacer push the rim out so you need longer studs to insure good thread depth, second with longer wheel studs you have a greater chance of bending our break the studs.    The simple physics is the longer a bar is the easier it is to bend. Yes I understand that our cars our hub-centeric, and the the lugs only holds the wheel to the hub, but the studs still has a large amount of force to withstand.   If the only Rims you find need spacers to fit our cars then get the spacers, but no autoX or any crazy O shit bar cornering and you'll be fine.  


 Option                                  Our cars look great with a 1 or 2 inch lip on the rims, I personally do not like these high offset rims that you see everywhere weather OEM or aftermarket. My 99 Golf has some nice factory rims(only 14  too small), but with such a high offset and with recessed lugs I can not get the rims off to change the tire now that I lost the key lock, I forgot it came with wheel locks from the factory for a set of 14" rims is that not stupid, now I have to take to the dealership and pay them over a $100 to get the locks removed.                             sorry for the rant            well that my .02cents

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« Reply #8 on: Dec 08, 2003, 08:19:34 am »
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cant you get wheel spacers that convert 4 bolt into 5?? or is that out of the question
From what I've been told, most tire shops will either not service your car, or will only do it 1 time.  Liability reasons.  I think it's all major BS, but...

So either a conversion has to be done to a different lug pattern, or (more likely) someone's gotta make custom high-offset hubs for us to run current-style FWD-offset rims.  One-piece deals so the tire shops can't &$#*%.
 


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« Reply #9 on: Dec 08, 2003, 10:14:05 am »
go to http://www.wheelchoice.com they sell the 4 to 5 lug adapters,
but there hella expensive, i think $150 per pair. there made in japan, comes in a cool blue anodized finish. oh they sell rims too...freakin expensive but if u want to see what ur getting into check it out.

also http://www.jspec.com can get them.

remeber these parts are $$$.  however if you decide to stay w/ the 4 bolt pattern rims from japan will be plentiful,but again $$$ there are deals to be found remeber that all toyota before FWD were the same bolt patterns. there are 15's out there that are wicked looking in a 4bolt pattern. with some crazy neg. offset like 0 to-10,so the lip on them can either be 2"-4"...that's nuts.....the celicas w/ flare can go with a 15x8,15x9rears with a -3 offset and they would still look like stock rims. ;)


goodluck in your search. i've got some rims with 1.5"of lip and 2" of lip good enough for now.
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« Reply #10 on: Dec 09, 2003, 01:32:05 am »
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go to http://www.wheelchoice.com they sell the 4 to 5 lug adapters,
but there hella expensive, i think $150 per pair. there made in japan, comes in a cool blue anodized finish. oh they sell rims too...freakin expensive but if u want to see what ur getting into check it out.

also http://www.jspec.com can get them.

remeber these parts are $$$.  however if you decide to stay w/ the 4 bolt pattern rims from japan will be plentiful,but again $$$ there are deals to be found remeber that all toyota before FWD were the same bolt patterns. there are 15's out there that are wicked looking in a 4bolt pattern. with some crazy neg. offset like 0 to-10,so the lip on them can either be 2"-4"...that's nuts.....the celicas w/ flare can go with a 15x8,15x9rears with a -3 offset and they would still look like stock rims. ;)


goodluck in your search. i've got some rims with 1.5"of lip and 2" of lip good enough for now.
15" rims may be a good fit on an AE86, but they're bad news for an RA65.  Trust me on this.  You can get rims that fit dead-on for backspace etc, but the tire selection in 15" sux.  Skip to 16" and performance tire selection is plentiful & cheaper than the 15's!!!

Just remember that most tire shops won't TOUCH a car w/ hub adapters OR spacer plates more than once.  I asked specifically about the bolt-on hub adapters from big names (H&R, etc) and they don't care.  It's their liability if they mount tires & wheels on the car, & the adapter falls off...  They're the last one that touched the car, even if they didn't touch the nuts for the adapter.

That's why I want either properly fit wheels, or custom hubs w/ the "adapter" built-in.
 


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« Reply #11 on: Dec 09, 2003, 02:17:45 am »
I want to know if there is a company out there that makes custom wheels in any design you want..... im sure there are... i would like to see the current GTS rims remade in say a 16x8, or even 16x9 for the rear.
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« Reply #12 on: Dec 09, 2003, 02:24:53 am »
:unsure: I almost had a pair of the mustang mesh rims.  They were Enkei and yummy.  :(


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« Reply #13 on: Dec 09, 2003, 07:40:42 am »
Old mage is right, it's not so much the lack of wheels that bothers me as it is the lack of tires. I too like the look of the stock wheels and would rather keep them. But I don't want to use 225/60s and I don't want to see a 14 inch 50 on my car. I guess I'll pull a hub off and head to the junk yard. This just can't be that hard.
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« Reply #14 on: Dec 09, 2003, 09:12:41 am »
Whats wrong with 15" wheels? there are a lot out there that fit our cars, i dont know if you guys have seen my Enkei wheels, i got these wheels at my local junk yard and paid about 20 bucks for each 15x7 with cero offset and they look great on celicas,and every time im the j/y i see more of them on 280's and other rwd cars, even guys driving hondas and other riced out cars with 17" or even 18" wheels stop and tell me that my car looks good from top to bottom,cause all its parts look like they belong, i dont know if you guys have seen how our cars look with new modern wheels(import wheels) they suck! looks totally out of place,the only other wheels that look good on our cars are centerline coronas, this things are cool, a guy i know has this coronas in his 84 gts coupe and they are 16x8 and they are not too expensive. :D  
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