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Re: Comprehensive Sra Suspension Tuning Guide
« Reply #195 on: Jan 30, 2018, 02:28:48 am »
I completed in Lonestar proam for 3 years 2014-2106 and I've been drifting for fun since 2012, I know what I'm talking about. From the top, cars need to be setup pretty neutral as far as weight is considered. Competitive drift cars dial in a shit ton of rear grip, how else do you expect to accelerate in drift in order to close a gap? Unless you are using a wisefab setup Ackerman is your friend. Generally front tires are kept within 235mm wide with very few exceptions (nto5r's, direzza z2's etc are generally used up front). The front tires though slimmer than what most used in grip racing are that way to create clearance from lock to lock.  Suspension Is still setup to maximize grip. Camber inclination properly setup will put more grip on the leading tire at full lock by allowing it sit flat and cause the trailing tire to easily drag by causing it to tilt. The biggest difference between drift cars are setups involving stiff spring with no sway bar, or soft springs with a lot of sway bar. Clever ballasts are common too. Here's a link of me tandeming with Masashi yakoi at lonestar bash in 2015 I think.

https://youtu.be/zN5oTpQYZOY

Trust me on this guys, grip! Grip! Grip! Is what you want in a drift car.. unless you want to be slow and useless on track... Most of us corner balance and setup the cars in very similar fashion to the road race guys. A properly setup race car will make an awesome drift car with just a change of tires as long as the car is rear wheel drive and has a good power to grip ratio.

Now you still don't want understeer, obviously oversteer is the goal, but proper driving technique will make the most out of a neutral car... Also that link you posted two tone is irrelevant, that video was made by a dude who drifted 4age ae86's and sr20 (relatively low powered) powered 240's. The name of the game has changed and so has the style. Sure he's a legend and was awesome in his time but drifting has evolved. The whole haul ass into a turn thing and then scrub speed with angle, while not requiring much rear grip and power wasn't ever very popular in American competitive drifting... Though it is very fun and rewarding when done right. Ramble ramble
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Re: Comprehensive Sra Suspension Tuning Guide
« Reply #196 on: Jan 30, 2018, 05:36:56 am »
That show is so poorly translated...one of my favorite engrish moments was “it has the original 70’s tires!” Referring the the 70 SERIES tires on itsuki’s ae85
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Re: Comprehensive Sra Suspension Tuning Guide
« Reply #197 on: Jan 30, 2018, 12:20:29 pm »
That show is so poorly translated...one of my favorite engrish moments was “it has the original 70’s tires!” Referring the the 70 SERIES tires on itsuki’s ae85

OHHHHHHHH. I was always confused as to why they called an 80's car's tires "70's" tires... thanks swan song, I can now go on in my life as a truly enlightened individual.

Now, I only how cars are set up for grip and going fast on a track, but a year ago I had the opportunity to drift a properly set up 350Z (from Naoki Kobayashi @ Drift 101) at Buttonwillow Raceway's skidpad. AFAIK it had coilovers, an angle kit, aggressive 2-way diff, and an exhaust. It was so easy to slide. In 10 minutes I was doing figure of eights around two cones. It was also easy to get the rear end out using the foot brake.
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Re: Comprehensive Sra Suspension Tuning Guide
« Reply #198 on: Jan 30, 2018, 02:34:54 pm »
Learning cars are setup loose so as not to be too hard to drift, the more grip you have the harder the car is to drive, the more power you need, the more tires you consume but also the more competitive your car becomes. My sc was setup like such and was very competitive, however I have since sold it and my Celica has no where near as much grip dialed in but I still would consider it loose. It pulls double duties as a grip and drift machine quite well all on the same setup, just change the tires.

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Re: Comprehensive Sra Suspension Tuning Guide
« Reply #199 on: Jan 30, 2018, 03:53:50 pm »
Learning cars are setup loose so as not to be too hard to drift

Ah ok, makes sense.
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